WASHINGTON (AP) 鈥 The man who hopes to be President Donald Trump鈥檚 health secretary repeatedly asked to see 鈥渄ata鈥 or 鈥渟cience鈥 showing vaccines are safe 鈥 but when an influential Republican senator did so, he dismissed it.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. spent two days this week insisting to senators that he鈥檚 not anti-vaccine. He said that he instead supports vaccinations and will follow the science in overseeing the $1.7 trillion Department of Health and Human Services, which, among other duties, oversees vaccine research, approval and recommendations.
But Kennedy repeatedly refused to acknowledge scientific consensus that childhood vaccines don鈥檛 cause autism and that COVID-19 vaccines saved millions of lives, and he falsely asserted the government has no good vaccine safety monitoring. While appearing to ignore mainstream science, he cited flawed or tangential research to make his points, such as suggesting Black people may need different vaccines than whites.
His responses raised concern among health experts that Kennedy lacks basic skills needed for the job.
鈥淗e ignores science. He cherry-picks sometimes fraudulent studies. Sometimes he takes well-done studies and takes little pieces of them out of context,鈥 said Dr. Sean O鈥橪eary of the American Academy of Pediatrics.
He worries that Kennedy could further damage public confidence in vaccines and 鈥渨e will see return of diseases that we really haven鈥檛 seen much of and unfortunately children will suffer.鈥
Kennedy 鈥渋n many ways demonstrated his lack of capacity to really understand some details around science and evidence that I think he would really need to know,鈥 said Dr. Georges Benjamin of the American Public Health Association.
The science on vaccines is clear to doctors and scientists 鈥 but not to Kennedy
Sen. Bill Cassidy, a Louisiana Republican and physician, said the science is clear that measles and other childhood vaccines are safe and not linked to autism.
Kennedy said if shown the data he would recommend those vaccines and 鈥渘ot only will I do that but I will apologize for any statements that misled people otherwise.鈥
So Cassidy pulled out and read aloud definitive scientific conclusions that vaccines don鈥檛 cause autism. Kennedy rebuffed him, instead mentioning a recent paper that outside experts have called fundamentally flawed 鈥 and Cassidy agreed 鈥渉as some issues鈥 鈥 in an attempt to counter decades of rigorous studies.
The senator told Kennedy his history of 鈥渦ndermining confidence in vaccines with unfounded or misleading arguments concerns me鈥 鈥 and risks casting 鈥渁 shadow over President Trump鈥檚 legacy鈥 if people die of vaccine-preventable diseases should he become health secretary.
Sen. Maggie Hassan, a Democrat from New Hampshire, said there鈥檚 a real-world ramification for 鈥渞e-litigating and churning settled science鈥 鈥 diverting money and time that could be spent finding the real cause of autism.
Kennedy ignored science showing COVID-19 saved millions of lives
Kennedy claimed there's no good surveillance system to know that COVID-19 vaccines are safe and lifesaving.
The U.S. tracks vaccine safety through multiple monitoring systems including electronic medical records from a list of health systems. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also checks how vaccines fare internationally, such as during the pandemic when large databases from Israel and the U.K. helped reinforce that the new mRNA vaccines were safe and lowering deaths from the coronavirus.
鈥淵ou鈥檙e applying for the job -- clearly you should know this," said Democratic Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont. 鈥淭he scientific community has established that COVID vaccines saved millions of lives and you鈥檙e casting doubt.鈥
Kennedy declines to back a vaccine that prevents cancer in women
AAP's O'Leary said there are about 35,000 cases of cancer related to the HPV virus that could be prevented by that vaccine, including 4,000 deaths per year. 鈥淲e are already seeing decreases in the number of cases of HPV-related cancers as a result of HPV vaccination.鈥
Kennedy didn't answer directly when asked if he stood by claims that the HPV vaccine could cause cancer or other disease. He instead brought up a pending lawsuit and suggested a jury 鈥 of non-scientists 鈥 would decide.
Kennedy's unfounded comment about race and vaccine schedules
Sen. Angela Alsobrooks, a Maryland Democrat, asked Kennedy about prior comments that Black people might need a different vaccination schedule than whites. Alsobrooks, who is Black, asked how Kennedy thought she should have been vaccinated differently.
Kennedy referred to some earlier papers suggesting people of African-American ancestry had a stronger immune response to measles and rubella vaccines than white people.
Vaccination recommendations aren鈥檛 based on race but on biological factors such as someone鈥檚 age and risk of a specific disease. Some studies show Black Americans are more hesitant than whites to receive certain vaccines.
鈥淭hat is so dangerous,鈥 Alsobrooks told Kennedy.
鈥淭here鈥檚 no evidence that there needs to be a different vaccine schedule based on race,鈥 said Dr. Amesh Adalja of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. Such statements could make different populations wrongly believe 鈥渨ell, maybe I don鈥檛 need as many vaccines鈥 as are recommended.
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AP Medical Writer Carla K. Johnson contributed.
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Lauran Neergaard And Mike Stobbe, The Associated Press